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Somewhat Controversial Obama's First Few Weeks

Linkman

Linkman

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So, I'm just curious what everyone thinks of Obama's first couple of weeks in office. With all the appointments, signings, the stimulus plan, and things of the sort where do you see the country (and his administration) headed?
 
In my opinion it's still a little too early to say how he will do as President, for the next 4 years
 
I wouldn't say copied, more like modeled his plan off it. It's much more modernized and globally concerned.
 
Okay so he changed the wording. :p Face it. He even is copying the whole thing that FDR did and addressing the people as a whole periodically on youtube so that we feel like he's doing something.
 
Gunslinger Girl said:
Okay so he changed the wording. :p Face it. He even is copying the whole thing that FDR did and addressing the people as a whole periodically on youtube so that we feel like he's doing something.
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Good. Reading from the play book of the president who got us through the Great Depression is probably a decent idea. So far I'm quite satisfied with his policy measures taken so far, but the run of un-vettable cabinet appointees has me disappointed if not worried.
 
Two words: f**k presidency.

At least as of now, every time he makes a speech the Dow goes down, every the stimulus bill is so chuck full of earmarks and pork it's unreal, and whenever he speaks all I see is an elitist attempting to solve America's problems through words.
 
Ya, if you have noticed, he is following the failed plans from bush, the economy is gettting worse everyday, and now he is trying to tax small businesses and privately owned bussiness and he is trying to nationalize them along with banks.... he is killing capatalism and he is driving us to socialism
 
You're like 12 aren't you?

The economy thing isn't going to be fixed in 50 days. It took almost 3 years for the Great Depression to begin to recover.

Also, I don't get why everyone is worried about socialism. Its a bunch of stupid hype. Do you think anyone is going to let that happen? And even if it did, why would it matter if our country turned out stronger?
 
mr.cuddles said:
Ya, if you have noticed, he is following the failed plans from bush, the economy is gettting worse everyday, and now he is trying to tax small businesses and privately owned bussiness and he is trying to nationalize them along with banks.... he is killing capatalism and he is driving us to socialism
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Now, that's a pretty heavy thing to say. I'm not saying I don't agree with you (mostly because I don't know what you mean), but I wish you would be more specific. Please define "killing capitalism" and "driving toward socialism" and be sure to have some strong, valid support for this. It's too much to just throw that out there.

Personally, I don't really see much happening. I mean, ok, the guy has been in office for about 2 months and he kind of was thrown into an unfortunate mess in not only our country but also other countries. It doesn't matter on whom you want to blame the mess. The point is it's there and it's going to be a heck of a job to clean it up. We don't know what will happen. Even if it doesn't look like it, I'm pretty sure he's trying. It's a big job, guys! Whether we like him or not, he's our president so we have to deal. It's really too early to tell much so all I have to say is hang in there.
 
mr.cuddles said:
Ya, if you have noticed, he is following the failed plans from bush, the economy is getting worse everyday, and now he is trying to tax small businesses and privately owned business and he is trying to nationalize them along with banks.... he is killing capitalism and he is driving us to socialism
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No, he's using different plans, and he's been making it painfully obvious to the public. Although both do have one thing in common thus far, neither have worked / are working (as of yet of course). Nothing about taxes... YET. He considered buying stock from ONE bank. Chill out and get your facts straight. Seriously.
Capt. Zeroth said:
You're like 12 aren't you?
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If that were true, he wouldn't even be on these forums. Also why must you add "like" to typing? It's painful enough as a stupid filler word in verbalized spoken language.
Capt. Zeroth said:
The economy thing isn't going to be fixed in 50 days. It took almost 3 years for the Great Depression to begin to recover.
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Not quite. A little more around 12 years sounds about right.
Capt. Zeroth said:
Also, I don't get why everyone is worried about socialism. Its a bunch of stupid hype. Do you think anyone is going to let that happen? And even if it did, why would it matter if our country turned out stronger?
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Socialism is a taboo word in America due to past experiences with socialism such as the old Soviet Union, which portrays socialism in an extremely poor light in America. That's why. Extreme liberalism in the economic part of the spectrum is considered socialist, and Obama is very, very liberal which is why there is any concern from people at all. Despite most people seeing it, and not even knowing what it is, and then flipping out because they're a fool and they think Obama is causing the end of America and freedom everywhere. Of course that's not true in the least, but welcome to ignorance. As for socialism versus capitalism, I'm really not in the mood to start a debate on that subject, but America has flourished wonderfully under capitalism in the past, and a change to socialism could either improve or diminish American economic importance, and people are more worried about the latter possibility, especially since it is a viable belief, for those who actually know something about the American economy and capitalism as well as socialism. And to answer the other question, yes, I do believe people would let that happen. Everything right now is controlled (except the Supreme Court) by far-left politicians, which means it would be much easier to garner just enough support for whatever agenda they want.

Anyway, I think it's far too early to tell much, although the amount of stupid earmarks on the stimulus irritated me. After one look at all of the money that is going to the state of New Jersey for what reasons, and what they plan to do with it, all I could do was laugh. For example, New Jersey is getting ~87 million USD for harbor construction. Good, jobs for people in the state, right? Nope, as their governor plans to pay OUT OF STATE FIRMS to get the jobs done, rather than stimulating their own state. Of course this is more the fault of Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenburg than Barack Obama, but I'm so irritated that I can only laugh to stop me from bashing my computer at just the sheer stupidity Washington combined with a state can make.
 
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